• Heroin Batman
    YouTube is garbage. They censor whatever randomly for advertisers. They almost killed a lot of indie wrestling by banning all ads for that a few years ago. Not for wwe who I'm sure paid them well, just everyone else. Now the same shit for weed. YouTube died the day google bought it. I avoid it like the plague. Ppl link a five second YouTube clip with a basketball play say, and you click and have to watch a longer ad to see the clip...

    I have been anxiously awaiting the YouTube replacement. Hopefully one day soon.
  • Magicman
    Will you tag up with me to become uber famous youtube wrastlers.
  • Baron23
    Heroin Batman
    Will you tag up with me to become uber famous youtube wrastlers.

    I can see it now :lol: :lol: :wink:

  • juxt

    Wow ok you got their photo up fast!
  • Mturner7
    Just discovered Jorge Cervantes' channel is gone....and leafly which wasn't all that big youtube bit the dust too :P
  • juxt
    I love leafly :(

    And I don't want to jinx anything, but it's odd that so many prominent ones are gone and certain high profile ones aren't. I hope anybody that might be impacted is covering their butts.
  • Baron23
    Wow.....people getting dumped left and right from YouTube yet CCC420's channel (the wake and bake guys, right?) are still up with live streams posted from just two weeks back.


    What a mess they have made of this. I never support censorship in any manner.
  • VapeCritic

    It looks like they removed all their videos to avoid the ban! It really is a mess :roll:

  • Bruce
    They are banning something that is legal for medical purposes and recreational purposes in many states.

    The devices can vaporize many different flowers that you can buy in a store.

    I hope they realize that taking away the advertising it hurts the people who put out the videos, Make the medical devices and those of who are buying devices.

    Shame on YouTube

    They make no sense.

    UPDATE: Upon further research it is the Pod industry and controversy that YouTube is trying to ban. The problem they dont know their ass from their heads. They cant figure out one has NOTHING to do with the other.
  • G-Code
    CustomGrow420 is back on YouTube now
  • AnVom
    Remo and John Berfelo are back as well as VaderOG and NVClosetMedGrower
  • Heroin Batman
    I wonder if those guys ever tried marijuana
  • VapeCritic
    WOW they're bringin em back!

    This I did not expect, but I always knew they like to fuck with us!
  • VapeCritic
    What sucks now is even for the people who got their channels back, would you ever promote your youtube chan again? :chin:
  • Alexis
    No doubt a lot of people would have appealed. Maybe in some cases they would have a very strong case and Youtube had to acknowledge this eventually maybe even of they didn't like it. Or some other influence maybe? I have no idea how thess things work in the real world and how it affects YT one way or the other to delete a lot of busy channels. Would they lose oney for that?

    If so maybe they have been acting more out of necessity than we believed to cover some arses, and possibly are refining their approach based on new parmiters to comply and work around it?

    I dunno, still stoned stupid and not waking up yet. Need my shower and steam inhalation.

    But I tell you what- if 420 Vapezone comes back I will be on shock.

    I am also going to phone Vapefiend again and ask how their appeal went and what they have been officially told by YT since.

    I mean I cant see why they wouldnt be reinstated when some others have been, Vapefiend only use hemp and legal CBD crumble etc in all their videos, NEVER about cannabis.
  • Baron23
    Weed YouTubers Speak Out After Having Their Channels Deleted

    The video platform has taken to purging selective cannabis content and demonetizing popular channel

    YouTube has been systematically shutting down marijuana-centric channels on its video-sharing site with little-to-no explanation since at least early 2018. Cannabis YouTubers—or WeedTubers—have been dealt channel strikes, suspensions, and restrictions on the same platform that seemingly used to embrace them. In addition to receiving little information about the purge, creators have been left confused by YouTube’s inconsistent enforcement of standards and policies concerning cannabis content.

    “As soon as they decided to close all of our channels down, it’s just been radio silence for every single one of us,” said Josh Young, creator of the channel Strain Central.

    Young had been a WeedTuber since 2014, even getting a tattoo of YouTube’s iconic red, “play” button logo on his wrist when he hit 100,000 subscribers about two years ago. He had cultivated a following of nearly 500,000 subscribers with educational cannabis content until his channel was shut down in late April. Young still sees the tattoo as a reminder of how he found both his passion and voice in his YouTube videos but is disappointed to see his channel disappear without a clear explanation.

    “I think the weirdest part for me is that for a long time, I had been [regularly] in contact with YouTube,” he said. “I wasn’t doing a lot of the big consumption challenges or anything like that, so I felt like they were a little more open with me… It almost seems like once they made that decision, it was an executive decision for everyone.”

    Preparing for the ‘Adpocalypse’
    Setting the scene for the creation of YouTube’s vague content policies, the platform has undergone a wide variety of changes dating back to March of 2017, an era dubbed the ‘Adpocalypse.’

    Huge brands including Pepsi, Walmart, and Verizon—in addition to institutions like the U.K. government—pulled their ads after finding that their spots were featured alongside problematic videos touting political extremist views and hate speech. AT&T issued a statement: “Until Google can ensure this won’t happen again, we are removing our ads from Google’s non-search platforms.” A resounding message heard not only by employees at YouTube, but the creators who relied on the platform for their livelihood.

    According to ArsTechnica, YouTube’s response was to place an age restriction on anything that might be objectionable, which demonetized those videos—essentially meaning they were not eligible for ads, and therefore, would generate no revenue for their creators. Brands were also allowed to opt out of advertising on videos based on broad criteria, including “tragedy and conflict” or “sensitive social issues.”

    As over 400 hours of video are uploaded to YouTube every minute, scouring that content is a huge task—one predominantly carried out by algorithms. Though creators may submit appeals, the process can take several days to complete. This lag upset several creators, who began jumping ship to other platforms, such as Twitch, or soliciting donations via Patreon or PayPal to continue their channels.

    The crackdown on content didn’t save YouTube from its next controversy. In December of 2017, YouTuber Logan Paul posted a video depicting a suicide victim in Japan’s Aokigahara forest. Though YouTube condemned the video, Paul, who has 17.5 million subscribers, was not permanently booted from the platform.

    Yet the most shocking turn of events came on April 3, when a 38-year-old vlogger shot and wounded three people at YouTube’s San Bruno, CA headquarters before taking her own life. Her videos, whose videos were largely focused on fitness, veganism, and animal rights, had expressed frustration over YouTube’s policies, claiming that many of her videos were demonetized.

    All of this sets the scene for what cannabis content creators claim is now happening with their channels, over a year from when this so-called “Adpocalypse” hit.
  • Baron23
    Part 2

    What’s Happening to Cannabis Channels?

    WeedTubers’ channel restrictions and deletions seem to follow a similar pattern. First, content creators first receive a strike. According to YouTube’s guidelines, strikes can be issues for a variety of issues, including copyright violations; harmful, dangerous, or hateful content; scams, or “misleading metadata.” One strike can stop the channel from live streaming, while two within a three-month period prevents the posting of any new content for two weeks. Strikes are not permanent, can be appealed, and will expire in three months’ time. However, if a channel receives three strikes in three months, that account will be terminated. It’s this strike-to-deletion pathway that seems common among cannabis channels, regardless of the type of content posted.

    Matthias Gast said he racked up three strikes on his channel, Matthias710WRX in February. He typically posted reviews of dabbing products and videos in which he took “massive dabs” for his some 100,000 subscribers.

    “It was kind of like a Jackass of weed thing, just trying to make people laugh and show them that cannabis isn’t dangerous,” he said. “You can smoke a whole ton of it, and I’m still standing here just fine.”

    The first strike was on one such CBD review, in which Gast took a half-gram dab and gave his thoughts on how he felt.

    He admits the second video strike, which featured the inclusion of a psychedelic mushroom, made more sense to remove. Yet his third came minutes after posting a video about a trip to Hawaii containing footage of him taking dabs and smoking, and his account was terminated within the span of a week. Gast said he was sent a generic email which indicated he was not following the platform’s terms and conditions.

    Similarly, Joel Hradecky’s channel boasting 1.5 million subscribers, CustomGrow420, was deleted earlier this year, only to have it reinstated on June 6 without notice. Like Gast, he said he received generic emails from YouTube without specific answers. In one such email, of which he posted a screenshot to his Instagram account, YouTube writes they do not allow content that “encourages or promotes violent or dangerous acts that have an inherent risk of serious physical harm or death.” Examples included drug abuse, bomb making, and underage drinking or smoking.

    “They have lots of alcohol stuff on there” Hradecky pointed out. “It’s just weird because everybody could post [cannabis content] for a long time, and then all of a sudden, everything changed.”

    Clark Campbell and Alice Addison, a Los Angeles-based couple who posted cannabis and lifestyle content to their channel, That High Couple, had their channel suspended in April. Campbell works as a digital community manager for a Multi-Channel Network, which means his day job is to work with influencers and content creators on growth strategies. In his experience operating under YouTube’s policies, he sees the rise in strikes and flags as the likely result of an algorithm, not a human monitor.

    “Across the board, we’re seeing cannabis tags and cannabis-related titles and topics [being removed]; those are the ones that at least the algorithm, on its basic level, is picking up, flagging, and removing,” Campbell said.

    The High Couple received their first strike on April 19 on a video explaining how to roll a joint, followed by a channel suspension. When their channel was reinstated, it came back with two strikes; the second strike was on a 360 tour of a dispensary in Vegas. The couple is now afraid to post any new content, for fear of a third and damning strike. So, they intend to move their cannabis content elsewhere and only post lifestyle and travel content to YouTube.

    “It hasn’t been anything we, as content creators, have done differently, it’s just that the platform is changing this year,” Campbell said. “It’s a shame because it’s one of the biggest, most radical changes since I’ve started working with YouTubers, and it’s something that they’re just not communicating enough over what it is they’re flagging.”
  • Baron23
    Part 3

    While some cannabis YouTubers have had their presence wiped out with no clear path to return, Matt Lamb, who posts educational and how-to content to his Ruffhouse Studios channel, has had his channel reinstated, though not without much back and forth.

    Lamb found YouTube supportive when he first started his channel in 2011. He enjoyed repeated invitations to YouTube’s space in Los Angeles, where he both produced content and used their equipment. Another time, said he was introduced to various brands like Chipotle and SweeTarts at a party; he was one of about 15 to 20 other creators and the only cannabis creator present at the time.

    Yet about a year ago, he began experiencing demonetization, followed by the complete deletion of his channel. When he reached out to YouTube to ask why, he was told he was using spiders or bots that would artificially inflate view counts, generating fake traffic. Lamb denies this, and said YouTube provided no evidence of what he had supposedly done. On May 29, Lamb’s channel was reinstated and he was sent an email indicating the channel did not violate the platform’s policies. Browse his channel today, and you’ll find his over 400,000 subscribers and video content in tact. Lamb still, however, doesn’t know what went wrong in the first place.

    Why the Purging of Cannabis Content?
    Given the range of reasons provided in YouTube’s vague emails and the absence of personalized communication, many WeedTubers are left wondering why — and, especially, why now. High Times reached out to YouTube for a statement, and have not received a response at the time of this writing.

    Without a clear answer, theories abound. One might argue that cannabis is a stigmatized drug that remains federally illegal, but it’s also considered a medicine in 29 states and legal in 9, as well as D.C. Although this would seem to go against the trend of YouTube not only allowing cannabis content, but seemingly encouraging it for quite some time with invites to film in the YouTube Space with studios and equipment or partner managers assigned to WeedTuber accounts prior to the wave of deletions.

    Some hypothesize that YouTube is attempting to become more brand-friendly and more appealing to TV advertisers. Lamb notes that some bigger content creators who cover cannabis but already have ties to TV, like Snoop Dogg and VICE, have been permitted to stay on the site.

    Others believe the platform is simply still trying to clean up its content after the Logan Paul outrage by bumping off smaller creators. While cannabis seems to be the common denominators among the WeedTubers we spoke with—whose subscriber counts and content styles vary—it’s not the only genre of channels that’s been experiencing strikes, suspensions, and deletions. Following the Parkland shooting, conspiracy theory and firearm channels began complaining of similar treatment. In 2017, LGBTQ creators found their videos were being placed in restricted mode.

    It seems the algorithm, blindly flagging and restricting videos containing anything that might be construed controversial in the slightest, is at the core of the confusion leading creators to criticize the lack of transparency at YouTube. And if YouTube is unable to clarify what, exactly, is acceptable on its platform, they could stand to lose a fair amount of creators—which may not matter to them if they’re still getting those advertiser dollars. For creators, it may mean seeking out new, more accepting platforms, or finding niche platforms centered around the communities they love.
  • JonnyFrontrow
    Still happening .. to the surprise of some companies or their marketers!

    Got this email from Cloudious 9 titled “YouTuber’s reaction to Hydrology9” at 10:03am>>>

    When I clicked on the video link at 3:30pm ... it was GONE>>>
  • Baron23
    Oh, look...our very own @To The Cloud and @VapeCritic are trend setting news makers!!

    At one time, Tyler Browne, owner of the To The Cloud Vapor Store says — Article
    “Very early on, it became apparent to me that this industry wasn’t equally embraced by all,” explained Vape Critic, a recognized source for information on cannabis vaporizers. “But it went even deeper than that; I noticed also that many were willing to look the other way, even though content of this nature was essentially against their terms. This is when you need to realize that you’re building your business on the side of a volcano, which could erupt at any time and vaporize you overnight -- pun intended.” — Vape Critic

    Tech companies Google and PayPal not playing nice with cannabis industry

    With marijuana now legal in over 60 percent of the United States, and with the latest estimates showing the cannabis industry could be worth a whopping $57 billion by 2027, it seems unlikely that major tech companies, like search engine giant Google and online payment platform PayPal, would still have a problem doing business with cannabis-related operations.

    But businesses that market ancillary pot products, such as vaporizers and e-cigs, say they have been completely shutout of the world of e-commerce.

    At one time, Tyler Browne, owner of the To The Cloud Vapor Store says his website, which sells a variety of herbal vaporizers commonly used for the consumption of marijuana, was able to advertise and sell products through popular services such as Google Adwords and Bing Shopping. But now these online sales tools have severed ties with businesses connected to the cannabis scene.

    Browne told Forbes that any company that makes its way selling cannabis vaporizers is being eliminated from the public eye and their accounts are being suspended, without question. This is a drastically different situation than it was before, he added.

    “In the past, it was like a game of cat and mouse,” Browne explained. “We spent so much on Google AdWords they actually gave us an account representative. The account reps would joke that they knew the products’ intended use, but would give us ways to get around it, like calling it an aromatherapy diffuser or omitting the word vaporizer.

    Story Continues Below

    “Having an account representative to help us remain compliant felt reassuring,” he continued, “like we would be able to keep the business growing with Google AdWords. One day, the account was suspended without warning. The once easy-to-count-on account representative was no longer able to respond, and appeals fell on deaf ears or instructing us to the terms of service agreement.”

    Google considers marijuana and anything associated with it, including “pipes and bongs," to be dangerous products or services. According to the company’s advertising policy, it does not allow the “promotion of substances that alter mental state for the purpose of recreation or otherwise induce "highs” or “products or services marketed as facilitating recreational drug use.”

    Unfortunately, vaporizers fall into the company's Dangerous Products or Services category because they are also associated with tobacco.

    “Herbal cigarettes, electronic cigarettes, or e-cigarettes,” are not permitted.

    But it is not just those tech firms providing companies with advertising opportunities that are bringing down the hammer. Browne says PayPal has made online sales next to impossible.

    In fact, the online payment company recently asked for proof that To The Cloud Vapor Store was not selling certain items. This is because PayPal does not wish to facilitate transactions from websites dedicated to selling vaporizers. The company claims it puts them at risk for "fraud, charge backs, and bad actors,” according to press release issued by To The Cloud Vapor Store.

    PayPal’s sales policy strictly prohibits transactions dealing with “certain controlled substances or other products that present a risk to consumer safety, drug paraphernalia, cigarettes, items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity.”

    However, sales involving e-cigarettes require pre-approval, according to the website.

    Browne says tech firms are targeting companies that sell vaporizers. But the policy is not the same for every vaporizer business. He is concerned that smaller firms, like his, will eventually be shunned from this vital market space – leaving it open only to those with influence.

    And he's not the only one who feels this way.

    “Very early on, it became apparent to me that this industry wasn’t equally embraced by all,” explained Vape Critic, a recognized source for information on cannabis vaporizers. “But it went even deeper than that; I noticed also that many were willing to look the other way, even though content of this nature was essentially against their terms. This is when you need to realize that you’re building your business on the side of a volcano, which could erupt at any time and vaporize you overnight -- pun intended.”
  • VapeCritic

    heheheh :100: :100:
  • VapeCritic
    Have any other channels come back after being deleted? like customgrow420 did?
  • deep_meditation
    I think Dabspot was shut down and it’s back again.
  • analytika
    YouTube is reversing the shutdown of multiple cannabis channels today, as we speak. Positive Smash (Ashley) is up with a report on her reinstatement experience.
  • Bruce

    The answer. There is a freedom to express yourself in the Constitution of the United States of America.

    They don't follow that in this country. If it weren't for the older and mature channels there would not be a youtube.

    Advertisers - are also part of the problem. They want to restrict vape related videos because they are afraid that it may not reflect on them positively.

    YouTube started because it was a place of expression. All kinds of videos and they made billions off of that. They wouldn't exist without the Youtube stars.

    YouTube - You can kiss my @#$@!@$@
  • TheDude422
    They've demonetized a lot of my favorite workout channels just for swearing too, smdh. They cut my boy Joe DeFranco's revenue which pisses me off because he is one of the most deserving channels when it comes to earning money on their content. The guy trains top tier athletes but lost his money over a God damn F bomb. Oh and can't forget my boy Dom Mazzeli. If there weren't still so many channels I watch on there I'd say fuck em.
  • Baron23
    There is a freedom to express yourself in the Constitution of the United States of America.Bruce

    Yes, there is....and while I don't like what YouTube did/is doing....they also are free to choose not to carry content.

    I believe that the First Amendment to the Constitution is the MOST misunderstood and exaggerated right we have. While the underlying principle is freedom of expression, this amendment does NOT protect your right to say/do whatever you want in any venue/time/place that you wish.

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
    — First Amendment to the USA Constitution

    I think its often worth remembering what the actual text...in plain English...says.
  • Vapster707
    This whole thread is just funny to me ...
Add a Comment