• Green
    32
    Hi all,
    I am currently in the market for a high end portable unit after being in love with my Arizer for several years. I am leaning towards the Crafty over the Firefly 2 due to my hate for draw resistance. The only part of this that worries me (besides reliability) is that I feel as if I will purchase a unit just for Storz & Bickel to release a new vape in time for christmas. Any feedback and insight you guys have would be great!
    Cheers!
  • Flipz
    482
    Not that I heard of but they are a sneaky company and did just put out the crafty & mighty vape with no prior press. If you hate having to worry about draw resistance I'd def go with the crafty. There is tons of info on the forum with "crafty vs firefly 2" if you haven't got a chance to look at yet.

    Even if they actually did release a new portable vaporizer the crafty would still get the job done I'm sure. Welcome to the forum by the way!
  • Green
    32
    Thanks mate, I appreciate the swift reply!
  • Joey
    55
    I'm in tune with on this: even if they release a new vape this christmas, the crafty will still be a beast! You can't be disappointed in this vape. The taste, the use, the cleaning, really are on point.
  • Bud
    17k
    I haven't heard anything but then again S&B is like the only company that doesn't give me a heads up, but since they just came out with those dosing capsules and chamber reducers I would guesstimate early next year as the soonest a new vape would be released
  • Green
    32
    I think ill go ahead and pull the trigger on it then, thanks for the help! I noticed online there are many variations in price.. ranging from about 290-340. Any word on if fakes are going around?
  • Bud
    17k
    great choice, it's always a good idea to pay MSRP and buy from an authorized dealer with high end vapes to ensure your warranty is valid
  • Baron23
    11.9k
    To add some completely redundant comments...LOL....as far as I can tell, S&B requires their authorized retailers to sell at MSRP...what we used to call 'fair trade pricing'.

    So, if somebody is offering it for less....look closely cause I don't believe they can be an authorized dealer.
  • Green
    32
    I emailed the website and they claim warranty is still offered directly through s&b. seemed a little weird to me too tho so ive emailed S&b asking them if the company is legit in its statements. Site in question is "Vaporseller" Ill keep you guys posted!!
  • Green
    32
    Hey guys just to let you know I received an email back from Storz & Bickel stating that they have no information on the authenticity of the site, however so long as it is not a counterfeit unit they will uphold the warranty. Id feel much safer getting from something like planet of the vapes tho, does anyone know if they offer price matches?
  • Flipz
    482
    Take a look here or click the BUY link on top of the forum. It has a list of authorized trusted stores for S&B and all other vapes.
  • Green
    32
    Idk guys, I checked them all and they all seem to have the $340+ price tag. Don't get me wrong, Id love to fork over the extra bucks to help out @VapeCritic but Im a broke college student and thats 4 grams less to break in the new vape XD
  • Flipz
    482
    Just saying that will be the price if getting from a authorized dealer. I am sure you can find for cheaper else wear just beware it might not be covered under warranty. I've always bought from places I know won't give me warranty problems/counterfeit items so my experience is null purchasing from somewhere else.

    Take a look at the boundless CF vape, it's much cheaper and is the closest looking thing to a crafty out I've seen. 8-)
  • Chaotix
    160
    Hey there I just saw this....

    I flat out wrote them and asked them (oct 16)
    I live in Germany so I am not far away.

    Well they said we can't tell you BUT "we always work to improve our products and we also want to implement our customer ideas into new products"

    I know that does not say anything but check this out: S&B are moving into a massive (thousands of square feet) new company building!!!!!
    "The largest vaporizer plant in the world"

    The picture is of them with high ranking government officials celebrating the start and on top of the huge place.
    They will move in mid December 2016 so it can't only be the volcano paying for it
  • Chaotix
    160
    vyy583s0akoiy7fh.png
    Now look at that they even had a nice "rooftop welcome"
    I wonder if they illegally lit up during this.

    Just noticed the silver box... what is that? Volcano medicinal edition?
  • Saeed
    82
    Truth is if it has a valid serial number how's to know what you paid for it. Forcing someone into paying retail for affiliate benefit isn't 1/2 as honest as the individuals who seem to be selling below MSRP. Although I get it; it's frowned upon..
  • Bruce
    1.8k
    The FF2 is a major disaster. Check customer reviews before thinking about it. I wouldn't buy a FF2 for 99 cents. I hope this helps.
  • ShowTime
    7
    @Chaotix This photo means Kosher approved! >:O (Y)
  • Dr green thumb
    6k
    Here we are two years later and still no news. Has anyone seen even a hint of a new vape from s@b?
  • Ctipp22
    2.2k
    The only evidence is in an interview with the owner and he says hes working on a new wing and maybe something will come 2019 or something. He also said if its not absolutely perfect they wont release it.
  • Baron23
    11.9k
    Yes, but you can buy an S&B coffee cup and NOW you can get S&B t-shirts. Oh joy!

    [img]http://381_066.jpg
  • Vapster707
    390
    Why make anything new when u still have ppls posting mighty is king comments all tha time :grimace:
  • fatbiker
    276
    The S&B management team that thought this was a good idea should be fired. Focus on your core business of vaporizers. Let’s see some new products already!!
  • LabPong
    4.3k
    Why make anything new when u still have ppls posting mighty is king comments all tha timeVapster707

    Because S&B even though new ownership...and we have no idea of their business model now....

    No other major manufactures are pushing them to make their vapes better. When that happens....you might see some big changes in design.

    But, who knows....they might develop something much better sooner......wait and see.
  • Microvaper
    396
    I'm surprised at the lack of on demand units to be honest. It seems like a lot of people prefer (or if not, at least enjoy) the ability to use small amounts and often while preserving the load in-between hits. I'm amazed that there isn't an on demand unit from a company like s&b or arizer. That's what I am really hoping for. A regulated, on demand unit. Maybe it's not true that the market is big enough for an on demand unit or maybe it's because I make it sound a lot easier than it would actually be to manufacture. Either way I really hope that's what is next for Storz & Bickel :pray:
  • Dr green thumb
    6k
    the solo2 and air 2 and Argo can all be used on demand. The load is contained in the glass stem and this effectively let's you remove it from the unit and cap it after 1 or 2 hits.
  • Microvaper
    396
    That's true to an extent, but it really isn't fully on demand. The stem retains a lot of the heat even when removed so you will be spending more of your material after capping than you would with a fully on demand such as a milaana between hits. I would really love a vape that functions as well as a milaana for on demand use that is regulated and maybe more portable
  • LabPong
    4.3k
    ↪Dr green thumb
    That's true to an extent, but it really isn't fully on demand. The stem retains a lot of the heat even when removed so you will be spending more of your material after capping than you would with a fully on demand such as a Milaana between hits. I would really love a vape that functions as well as a milaana for on demand use that is regulated and maybe more portable
    Microvaper

    Exactly....a conduction vape is not going to ever be able to preserve the load...its already spent as it was wholly "baked".

    An on demand portable needs to be convection.....that said...just put a small load in the arizer stems to do a few small pulls.
  • Microvaper
    396
    Yeah the solo definitely works surprisingly well with small amounts.
  • Baron23
    11.9k
    For portables, I still think that hybrid ala' the Mighty is the way to go. I just feel that energy storage and heater limitations in portables makes them too damn finicky for pure convection/true on-demand.

    Then there is the issue of the user's inhale rate/style being a core factor in performance.

    With desktops, it seems like there is a surfeit of heat available that masks or mitigates these types of issues.

    I think another issue with almost all pure convection vapes is the color of the AVB. Does green mean that there is still a lot of goodness left in your load...well, seems like it depends. Green = chlorophyll and not THC. And while the melting point of chlorophyll-b is rather low, the boiling point is about 1,000F. Nonetheless, most of us often assume that when we still see hints of green in there (like Volcano poo...there is always that hint of green) that we are not extracting effectively and it makes customers and CS crazy chasing AVB color issues. The conduction component of hybrids seems to get the green out a bit better...I know when I top a Mighty load with a liquid pad and add conduction to the top side of the load, the AVB is perfectly even brown. Now AVB color shouldn't necessarily be one of our prime concerns, but it usually is. We usually equate even brown AVB with full extraction.

    Also, I do remember when I started vaping and insisting that I wanted something just like a pipe...something I could walk by and take a couple of hits and set back down. I remember anxiously awaiting the FF2 for just that reason....a disappointment but they promised what, at the time, I thought I wanted.

    Fact is, I don't really use vapes that way and I really do want to session and get highly medicated when I do. I do understand that there are others that do indeed micro-dose and for them a "pipe" like on-demand vape would be useful, but I find that contrary to my earlier thoughts, its not really how I vape.
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