• Bud
    17k
    Just posted my Boundless review, I like these!

    https://www.vapecritic.com/boundless/

    These are portables for dry herbs under $200 and they're very well-rounded units, check out my short video:

  • Baron23
    12k
    HI Bud = great review as always.

    But please comment on conduction vice convection (not what Boundless says but what you think from design, vapor flavor, and AVB).

    Also, cleaning. Aside from the mouthpiece and oven, is there anything else to clean...e.g. the air path that looks to start on the bottom of the unit. Ever get dirt in there, ever need to get in it?

    Lastly, I take it that batteries are not removable? Yeah? Hence you have to expect failed batteries at some point just because Li batteries have a charge/discharge cycle lifetime. ??

    Thanks again.
  • Bud
    17k
    thank you sir and great feedback!

    I'd say it's hybrid conduction/convection heating, there's no way it could be 100% either based on how it behaves. You get that super fast heat-up time and instant vapor production (conduction), but it works with a loose packing and the AVB is extremely even at all temps (convection-esque).

    Cleaning will involve the usual brushing-out of the oven after each session and the mouthpiece "cooling unit" part can be soaked in ISO every dozen sessions or so (after being disassembled into a few pieces). Haven't had any issues with the bottom air intake yet but if I do the first thing that comes to mind to use is that air duster I bought to clean my FF2 screen :-} I've had these two units for quite a while now and no clogging yet but definitely an area to keep my eye on.

    Batteries are not removable, but here is what POTV says about it on their site:

    We are authorized dealers of the Boundless CFX so if you decide to grab one, your vape will come with a 2 year manufacturer’s warranty against defect. If there's an issue with the battery after the 2 year warranty, Boundless will replace the batteries for a $25 fee. As with all vaporizers purchased from Planet Of The Vapes, you are also covered by our 100% Satisfaction Guarantee. — POTV
  • Hitz
    242
    Great review man! I think I read somewhere that the CF does not have overcharge protection is that something of concern (if plugged in overnight or charged all day)? Also do any of these have pass-thru charging?

    As always thanks for taking the time to share your findings, you are the Gene Siskel of the vape world!
  • Flipz
    483
    I'm not sure about any overcharge protection thing but I keep mine plugged in whenever it's not in use. Been doing it for over a month without issues here. I don't believe you can use it while charging, think I tried before and it didn't work but I should try again before being 100% sure lol.
  • Hitz
    242
    I feel like I might have asked you this a few months ago :’( ... Glad to hear battery's ok and the house is still standing X-)
  • Chandler
    376
    Nice Review!
  • Baron23
    12k
    Outstanding, Bud. Thanks for the answers and POV and Boundless have a really good policy on warranty and battery replacement. None of this stuff will last forever, but it you kill a battery after 2 years, then $25 is very reasonable for replacement cost.

    Really good. If I didn't have a Flowermate Pro right now, I would consider a CFX. Maybe I need to gift the Flowermate to a buddy? ;) >:)
  • Flipz
    483
    I'll post a little review on my thoughts later since I had the last month to use my Boundless CF and give it a whirl 8-) I def do like it
  • shaolinmilk
    83
    89/100 as expected! Besides stealth, what makes the Gpen Elite better since it got 90/100? Other reviewers said the vapour quality of the Gpen Elite was nowhere near as good so I'm curious what you think when comparing the two strictly on vapour quality.
  • Flipz
    483
    Vapor quality is pretty close between those 2 so I don't see the difference in 1 rating with the two vapes. As to why the ratings are what they are, I couldn't answer that for you lol.
  • Flipz
    483
    The packaging is actually surprisingly nice for a vaporizer priced this cheap. Inside the box there was
    the Boundless CF Vaporizer itself, manual, power adapter, USB cable, concentrate "pod", brush and some packing tool.

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    When you first pick up the CF vaporizer, you'll feel a nice soft to the touch yet comfortable in the hand feeling. I always feel like I have a grip holding it which is great for me lol. I did 2 burn-off cycles before using on the highest heat setting just to be safe. It's a habit I do on new vaporizers to prevent dealing with any weird taste. Not saying this unit has one but it didn't when I first used it.

    The CF 5 temp settings are 355F (179C), 370F (188C), 385F (196C), 400F (204C) and 415F (213C). I’ve found these temp choices to be more than enough for vaping purposes. The heat up time of this vape is rather fast... about 25-30 seconds to hit 370F which surprised me. On 370F I usually get up to that temp in around 25 seconds. Hold the button down on the CF, temp light will blink and become solid green when it's heated ready to vape. I'd say there is a little draw resistance but since it gives vapor so easy, it's not a problem at all for me. (Y)

    The CF and CFX do have the same size herb chamber. The Boundless CF can easily hold .5g of course grinded herb. If you really grind it up fine you can def get more into the chamber but I find it's not necessary to go nuts like that IMO. The flavor from this vape is not bad at all and hits are pretty smooth and not too harsh until last 2 hits maybe.

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    I will say, when loading, the little ring area around the mouthpiece will get herb in it from loading but you just brush it out easily. Maintenance on the CF vape is real easy... just a brush to the chamber when needed and taking apart the mouthpiece unit every so often to clean with ISO. I got a good amount of use before needing to clean for the first time which I always appreciate.

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    The CF vaporizer has a micro USB charging and gives me about 55-75min of use fully charged. Comes out to around 4-6 sessions for myself but obviously it will vary depending on how you use it. The Boundless CF has a 1300mAh battery inside. The micro USB charging is decently fast (they recommend using a 2.0A output charger). Using 2.4A output USB charger it takes about 90-105min to fully charge from dead.

    Remember I am only talking about the Boundless CF vaporizer and not the CFX vaporizer here although they do basically work the same vapor performance wise. That's all for now, thanks for reading!

    UPDATE: Starting the 2nd week of July 2016, the CF will now have these additional features. I got mine before this update so right now I'm not able to comment on the following added features.

    STEALTH MODE:
    Hold power button down on the CF for three seconds to enable stealth mode. The LED lights will turn off on the device but the unit will remain heated and fully functional. Hold power button down for another three seconds to power the lights back on.

    BATTERY INDICATOR:
    The one we've really been waiting for! Press the power button three times to show the battery level. The LED lights will flash between 1-5 lights depending on how much battery life is left. 1 being the lowest amount of battery and 5 being fully charged.

    MEMORY FUNCTION:
    The CF will now power on, set to the last temperature used. In the original model the CF would start at the lowest temperature and you would have to reset your desired level to start each session. With the update, the CF will now start heating up to the last temperature used.

    Be easy!
    -Flipz 8-)
  • Baron23
    12k
    Thanks, Flipz....these look like very nice units and affordable also. As far as herb in the ring around the oven, I saw another video review of this with a gal and it did seem to bother her a bit.

    But funnels are plentiful and cheap. Here's one for the GH made by Delta 3D Studios that I bet would work fine:

    http://delta3dstudios.com/grasshopper-mini-loading-funnel/
  • Flipz
    483
    Even my crafty gets a little herb around the chamber, prob a little more so than the boundless CF. I've yet to use any vape that required no cleaning or maintenance at all when used regularly. Is that even possible to make, a vape that never needs cleaning? The lotus is the closest thing but it's a different type of vape with torch so can't really compare that lol.
  • Aj85
    786
    great review as always!

    Would you say this would be a good choice for my friends who have tried my mighty or crafty and fallen in love but could never afford one?

    I quite often lend my friends vapes to try but then they seem disheartened when they can't afford as good a vape as I lent them. Think I'll have to start only lending the not so good ones out. lol

    All the best,

    Aj.
  • Aj85
    786

    Hey vapelife team, things have been crazy busy lately so I've not been able to get online or participate on my favourite forum much lately but I hope you are all well!

    Keep up the great work vapelife team!

    All the best,

    Aj.
  • Baron23
    12k

    AJ!! YOU LIVE!! :-O (Y) 8-) X-)

    Good to hear from you, you have been missed. I was thinking just the other day that I should drop you a PM and see if you were well and then thought (stupidly) that doing so might be intrusive.

    Glad to see you back on the board and look forward to all of your comments and contributions.

    Cheers mate!! :D
  • Aj85
    786
    hey mate, hope your well! I've only just seen your PM. for some reason I didn't get an notification email.

    I know it's a bit late but I'm glad you had such a good shoot and I hope you've recovered by now. I know what it's like to suffer for a hobby. lol

    I've been working offshore and without normal internet access for legal reasons. lol

    I'd never view a pm from you as intrusive. lol

    Take care.

    All the best,

    Aj.
  • Flipz
    483
    What's up man, glad your doing ok. Always good to hear from you (Y)

    Both the CF/CFX vape would be good for your friends I think. Don't think anything else is out that resembles a crafty/mighty more lol. Vapor does taste better out of a S&B but the Boundless ones actually give off a nice amount of vapor and gets me feeling nice. Really cannot go wrong for the price and both vape the same so up to them on which Boundless they prefer. 8-)
  • andrew26
    8
    Hey guys,

    I've had my cfx now for a few months and I must say it's pretty damn sweet. I ordered it from PuffItUp for $160 and they gave me elb top hat screens to fix the mouthpiece screen problem ;) they also gave me the free water pipe attachment (wpa) so I ordered from them as they have the whole 2 year warranty stuff and all and hooked me up with free shipping since I live in Canada :)
    The unit itself is pretty awesome and iv had no problems with it yet ( knock on wood ) lol. The flavor I find diminishes pretty quick after the 3 or 4th hit but then vapor production sure ramps up.
    Boundless is suppose to be coming out with a new unit in the fall so I'm sure everyone on fuckcombustion will be going nuts cuz it sure is popular on FC forum lol.
    @VapeCritic I saw your video review on the Arizer Air, would you say the vapor quality and taste is better/ lasts longer on the arizer air? Because I like my cfx but was looking for a change lol.
  • Bud
    17k
    i've found the NewVape pax loading tool works AWESOME for these:

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  • Bud
    17k
    whats up brother! to answer ur question, yes, i think ur friends would dig these for how much they cost if they liked the crafty & mighty
  • Bud
    17k
    hey yea i'd say the air beats it on vapor quality but not by a landslide just a tiny bit
  • Bud
    17k
    hey thanks bro i'm not positive about the overcharge protection but it's always good practice to not leave any vape on the charger for too long after it's fully charged.

    and yes they do have pass-thru charging but through USB they have the same problem as the Crafty where they draw power faster than it can charge so using it plugged in kinda just slows down the battery drain
  • TheAnalogKid
    14
    Great summary man. Between both Bud and you I'm convinced to go for it as a backup. For that price there is very little risk, and I'll probably be getting a Plenty soon, so no need for another expensive portable (or at least I hope so).

    Quick question though, where did you get the info about the updates? Is it like a firmware issue or do we need to wait until the stores get rid of the current batches?
  • Baron23
    12k
    Thanks Bud. As you know, I really like NewVape, their stuff and them. But not having a Pax I never went into that part of their site and so I don't think I have ever seen that item. Its nice.

    As you may know, I also like Delta 3D Studios and they make some tools folks might be interested in (note, they are all 3D printed steel):

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  • DomIke
    45
    Whant to know about the flavor part! If its good and if its last a couple of draws!
    Is CFX better tasty than FLowermate pro 5 and G Elite?
  • Hitz
    242
    Your wisdom is appreciated sir thank you ;)
  • Flipz
    483
    I only know the different versions based on what I got originally and what they sent me back when I needed to send it in. Between that and just reading other people say the different versions is where I got that info.

    Still don't have any idea on the difference between each though :-}
  • Flipz
    483
    I'll take it! :D
  • Aj85
    786
    thanks guys, it's good to have free time and Internet access to participate again. I've had a lot of reading to do to catch up. I've missed some great threads and absolutely hilarious conversations. (Y) (Y) (Y)

    I'll have to recommend the boundless vapes to my friends and then when they buy one I'll give it a try ;). Doesn't seem much point in me buying one when I have so many top of the range vapes.

    I'll be sure to pass on the recommendation to friends looking for something crafty-esque. Especially as most of my friends try it then fall in love. Only to swear at me and tell me to "move away in a thrusting manner" (no need to moderate lol) after asking me the price.

    All the best,

    Aj .
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