• Cl4ud3
    3.4k
    I thought it best to have a dedicated thread to deals so as not to fill the gaming thread with them.
  • SirSixPence
    721
    https://www.costco.com/.product.1430579.html
    Costco Members: HP Omen 25L PC: Ryzen 7 3700X, 16GB DDR4, 512GB SSD, RX 5700
    $1000
    Seems like a good deal.
  • Hapo
    373
    ...methinks you could do better @ Dell...???...maybe not...???...

    https://deals.dell.com/en-us/category/gamingpcs?~ck=mn

    ...to stay around that price point I would trade the 512 GB SSD for the faster GPU and better CPU on this system...

    https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/7bu9

    ...for $200 or so more you can upgrade storage and GPU signifigently...

    https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/7bu3
  • Hapo
    373
    ...this is the lap top I selected...I liked the RTX 2070 GPU/price...

    ...don't like the small SSD and may not like the display behind deficient color saturation...

    ...we shall, uh, see...

    ...they are selling but there seem to be a good number of these left...

    https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/7b01
  • Hapo
    373
    ...this computer has bigger brighter screen...almost gone...would have gone with this unit if I could have found another $200 in time despite the slightly slower GPU...

    https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/7azp
  • Hapo
    373
    ...the computer I bought/posted is sold out but the one I would have bought if I had another $100 is still available...it has a slightly less powerful RTX 2060 GPU that is actually more modern than the RTXX 2070, but has twice the data storage with a 1TB SSD...

    ...also it is the G7 vs G5 which means a metal body and other enhancements such as a bigger battery...

    ...the 2060 is a bit shaded by the 2070 but is less expensive and uses less power...

    https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/7b03

    https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2070-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2060/4029vs4034

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  • Ogie
    18
    If you guys are looking for a new complete pc I would suggest something with "at least" a 3060ti, and -if possible- a 5600x as well. I would steer away from those Dell towers for something more towards Redux side of things which uses all after market parts and has at the very least ample cooling. There is also the 3060(6 days) and the 6700XT(a month) launching soon.
  • Hapo
    373
    ...indeed, but the left over computer is likely less $$$ than one of those GPU's...

    ...none of the Dell systems they are unloading are exactly bleeding edge...

    ...they are built with discounted left over parts...

    ...I have no idea what it takes to run today's latest games...

    ...I did consider the cooling issue...I understand that high end gaming systems feature liquid cooling...

    ...I have pretty much lost touch with that world...
  • Ogie
    18
    It doesn't take much to run today's games depending on the the type of settings you're aiming to play at. I was just pointing out that there are likely much better options out there in terms of prebuilts.
  • Ogie
    18
    I mentioned the new gpu's cause I thought it was worth noting that, if you weren't dying for a new pc right now, there will be more options in the near future that might save you some money or, make the other options a bit cheaper.
  • Ogie
    18
    At the end of the day if you like how it looks, it performs to your needs, and it's within what you're willing to pay, that's all that really matters. Just putting my information to use as I am not building, but I have been following PC market loosely.
  • Hapo
    373
    ...change is the only thing that stays the same...

    ...the situation you described above is pretty much perpetual, as in always the case...

    ...the good thing aboot it is the latest obsolete $1000 gaming computer is vastly more capable than the $1000 gaming computer from 2015...

    https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3090-vs-Nvidia-RTX-3080/4081vs4080

    ...look how little gain you get for twice the $$$...bleeding edge costs big and is very temporary...

    ...the 3080 is the current sweet spot...IMHO...I will probably never own one but if I do it would be in 2025...LoL...
  • Ogie
    18
    Yes but they are still obsolete, in the sense that there are still better options at the very moment. Why get the "latest obsolete" when you can opt for the better option at the same price?

    From what I've gathered the general consensus is that 3080 is the sweet spot, yes. Though I haven't really paid too much detail to the newer stuff since, they're kind of expensive.
  • Hapo
    373
    https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/7hzj
    ...96% sold...if you are aware of a better option somewhere besides your imagination I am eager to see it...

    ...I might worry aboot heating issues...that would be easier to deal with than lack of color saturation in the monitor on a lap top...

    ...in a few years maybe I could buy a 3080 at newegg for 50%...

    ...but why...???...by then there will be somthing better to buy... (grin)

    https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3080-vs-Nvidia-RTX-3060-Ti/4080vs4090
  • Hapo
    373
    ...they seem equivalent other than , uh, style...and price... :up:

    ...is there any advantage to the cyberpower computer than flashy lights and see through cases...???...
  • Ogie
    18
    You can configure something similar for the same price on Cyber Power
  • Hapo
    373
    ...thanks...never heard of Cyber Power...I take it that they do not suk...



    https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3060-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-5700/4090vs4046
  • Ogie
    18
    Yes, there are many. For one you get a better case that might actually have air flow. The dell doesn't even have spots that you can actually mount fans, I don't think.
    You also get an actual gpu, an actual EVGA 3060ti XC Gaming, along with a motherboard that provides some upgradeability, and a higher quality power supply as well. The Dell would have a lower quality, proprietary/OEM no-name graphics card, motherboard AND power supply.
  • Hapo
    373
    ...see, this is "trolling"...not being a "troll"....

    ...trolls do not troll...it can be confusing...

    ...thanks for saving us from the Dell... :grimace: :up:
  • Ogie
    18
    Well I technically didn't "save" you from anything since the PC I linked is sold out. But it would be the better option if you were to wait for it. The Dell is showing delivery in March for me anyways.
  • Hapo
    373
    ...the information you provided makes the deficiencies of the Dell tower clear to a n00b...

    ...maybe we will look at Cyber Power if we are looking for a serious gaming desktop instead of Dell...

    ...I saw that RTX3060ti in the Dell I posted and thought it was a good deal...
  • Hapo
    373
    Nvidia vs AMD
    AMD’s Vega (56, 64) and Navi (5000) series GPUs deliver great performance in specific games with specific hardware/software configurations. Unfortunately, following the initial surge in sales fueled by AMD's marketers, many users discovered that they exhibit widespread stability and compatibility issues (blue/black screens and driver resets). The cards are engineered to shine in benchmarks, often at the expense of real world performance and hair dryer levels of noise. For example, the reference 5700 XT has its stock clocks set so high that it overheats and stutters in popular games. Expert users, that are happy to tinker with BIOS updates and voltage curves can sometimes extract excellent price/performance but many users end up getting a refund instead. By comparison, Nvidia’s cards have better compatibility, lower return rates and rock solid stability. That said, above the 2060S-2070S tier, where there is no competition from AMD, Nvidia’s pricing remains completely unchecked.
  • Ogie
    18
    In that sense it is a good deal considering the current availability of 3060ti's. But yeah. Since there was the just the Cyber Power being sold yesterday, maybe not the best deal out there.
  • Hapo
    373
    ...it's aboot to sell out anyway...

    ...I had not considered the proprietorial nature of Dell products in regards to upgrades...

    ...I don't mess around with overclocking my hardware but I would like to be able to upgrade components on a desk top...

    ...I had regarded the see through cases and lighted fans on the Cyber Power as useless bling and discounted any advantages those cases might offer over the more compact and IMHO much more aesthetically pleasant case on the Dell XPS...
  • Ogie
    18
    Nvidia vs AMD is a good place to start, but I'd try to look at specific benchmarks and reviews instead.
  • Hapo
    373
    ...I was just posting the "take away" of an article I read for Six Pence...

    ...he was looking hard at that Cyber Power box with AMD components...

    ...interesting...

    https://www.dell.com/community/XPS-Desktops/XPS-8930-CPU-cooling-design/td-p/7621404

    Even for stock cooling, this is bananas. Granted the CPU will throttle down when it hits 100C to protect itself, it should not even be getting close to that number in the first place. These cases should ship with the same cooling components used in the Alienware series (same case, different shell). There is absolutely no excuse for it not too in the first place.

    Yes. I know I can upgrade the exhaust fan and install intake fans myself. I can upgrade the CPU fan as well.

    BUT I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DO THAT.

    So what is the deal? I have been searching this forum and this is a very common problem. Yet I have seen zero remedies from Dell besides "Update the BIOS" and that did nothing.
  • Ogie
    18
    For the most part that take-away is pretty on point, just a bit general. As for what you said about the XPS, I totally agree and would totally take that form factor over the Cyber Power all other things equal
  • Hapo
    373
    ...here is a reality I had been ignoring in comparing the RTX 2070 GPU to others...(D'OH!)

    https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2070-Mobile/4037vsm694798

    ...the RTX 2070 MOBILE in the laptop I ordered from Dell is just a little better than a GTX 1660ti in a desktop...

    ...compared against the GPU in my current system...

    https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2070-Mobile-vs-Nvidia-GTX-960M/m694798vsm27242
  • Ogie
    18
    Yea laptops tend to have "mobile" versions of the gpu which aren't quite the same as the desktop ones.
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