• kpx420
    16
    Well i guess u are trying to say in a nice way.. You prefer to dab out of the rig not the FP? ..anyways I'm sorta looking to achieve to get a monster draw, possibly vaping all material at once w/o combustion? Pretty much what I'm looking for is.. that I had a collapsed lungs 15 yrs ago, I'm trying to achieve that from vaping~ =) Which one would be able to achieve that? I'm really looking for intensity~
  • Baron23
    2.2k
    then either will do with a small edge to the FP
  • LabPong
    157
    ↪Baron23
    Ahh i see, Ive only dabbed thru like dab rib like this one I have
    https://vaporsandthings.com/collections/holistic-glass/products/slyme-holistic-removable-showerhead-bent-mouthpiece-bubbler with a quartz banger or like dab pen wit atomizer/globe.. Either one will be mostly used for flower but yea IDK anymore LOL.. Im just going to load up the Plenty full..
    kpx420

    Damn.....that glass unit looks awesome......crap...I just lost my dhgate GAS haaaaa

    Thanks for sharing that link kpx420!
  • kpx420
    16
    [ I wanted to upgrade from this piece but I might have mistaken.. Its more of Bubbler than bong takes very little water.. the showerhead perc is removable which is cool... Thats funny you lost your gas.. Im looking at dhgate to replace this one.. But I got this hollistic piece cuz its USA glass and i just wanted something a little stronger glass as I like to break stuff :D .. I feel like the
    water chamber is too small but dont take my word.. Im a former blunt/joint guy exclusively and This glass rig was the cheapest USA glass at the store, only reason why i bought it cuz it was the cheapest one lol
  • kpx420
    16
    Stupid question but does the bowl (where your put your herb in the FP) still prone to get stuck in your glass piece? or does the handle help that now?
  • LabPong
    157
    13
    Stupid question but does the bowl (where your put your herb in the FP) still prone to get stuck in your glass piece? or does the handle help that now?
    kpx420

    The newer design they recently came out with works much better so that does not happen. Although, I do not use the stock bowl anymore, I use a glass one with a drop down so I can lift out either. But I also have a carb on my water units so I do not usually lift any joints apart to clear a draw.

    Yea I like that design of that water unit you got, but could not tell how much volume it had for water. That is important and now that I look at it...even with that huge 22 or so mm joint...seems like it could be a wider lower section for double water and capacity.
  • Baron23
    2.2k
    ↪Baron23
    WOW Nice review! Very informative,
    kpx420

    I thought you had read this???

    You can see the design evolution here and part of that was to address how the f*ck to empty a VERY hot Ti bowl! LOL. So, we got bowls with handles. Note, the handles are “break-way” handles in case it gets stuck in a joint you will break the cheap handle before your expensive glass. He does make a solid handle, with silicon wrapping instead of hemp fiber, which is what I use. Its listed as a separate item on the FP parts page.

    But this brought up the next issue. Some peoples male body w-handles never stick. Mine stuck every time. It’s simply the expansion of the Ti in the glass joint. Once it cooled down again, it came off perfectly. But how to empty the bowl if it’s stuck in a piece of glass with water in it. Well, I always use a drop down with any of this sort of kit and found it very easy to use the drop down as an extended handle for the bowl. Forget taking the bowl out of the drop down joint (wasn’t happening), just pick the drop down up out of the joint on your water piece and use it to hold when emptying the bowl.

    But I’m not the only one who had this issue of sticking…far from it, it was very common. So, NV attempted to address this with two piece Pan Head and Shovel Head (familiar terms to Harley aficionados). The ONLY difference between the two of them is aesthetics…just superficial exterior design. However, they do have a difference from the OG Handle Bodies shown above….the new two piece’s screen depth is 2.5 mm deeper than the OG Handle Body and is equal to the screen depth of the OG bowl (non-handled). Some customers wanted this as they wanted a bigger load size. I prefer the shallower bowl as it puts the load closer to the heat source so a lower coil temp can be used. With the Pan Head and its 2.5 mm deeper bowl, I upped my coil set point temps about 40 F but you will need to experiment as people are all over the maps with FP temps depending on how they like to vape (it’s a very flexible and versatile design).

    So, below are the Pan and Shovel head two piece bodies. Note, their handle has a hole in it to insert a small dowel or screw driver to use as leverage to tighten it. As far as I know, they only come in male fittings as the female didn’t have the sticking problem (for obvious reasons) so there was no need for a fix. How this works is you drop a post (14 or 18 mm) into the joint on your water piece until it’s firmly seated. Then gently drop your bowl over the post until it rests against the top of the glass joint. Insert handle and screw the two pieces together. This really did solve the sticking problem. Early versions sometimes had a small air leak that slightly diluted the vapor, but considering this is the ‘bong’ of vaporizers even a small amount of dilution was considered unacceptable. Small tweaks to the design (e.g. getting rid of the key way on the posts) eliminated that issue.
    Baron23
  • kpx420
    16
    sorry if i offended you then but thank you again
  • kpx420
    16
    I think i could use a actual bong that held more water but Im not sure... I might just use the FP or EVO dry anyways so I guess it might be a mute point
  • Baron23
    2.2k
    you didnt offend me, but I know you read it cause you said you did.

    So why the continual redundant questions?

    That entire discussion in the write up was the history and status of sticking bowls.

    That’s all

    Cheers
  • kpx420
    16
    Ok so ill stop asking questions..wow
  • LabPong
    157
    ↪LabPong
    I think i could use a actual bong that held more water but Im not sure... I might just use the FP or EVO dry anyways so I guess it might be a mute point
    kpx420

    I have found that I get better results of taste and control using a larger water unit with the flowerpot.
  • kpx420
    16
    Thanks! I sorta had that feeling I needed a glass piece with a slightly larger water chamber but I''ll try mine out first then order from dhgate..Just for my own curiosity I did dab sum reclaim out of that rig yesterday and seemed like it worked better than I remembered lol :-x
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