Portable Vaporizers

  • Really close to giving up on vaping

    Vaping seems perfect for me, but I’m not sure I have the patience to figure it out. I don’t care so much about clouds as I do getting the full effect that I would get from smoking a bowl. I thought it was just my entry level vape being crappy but I got a Firefly 2 and I’m getting the same results out of it too. Am I alone in feeling this way?

    Healthiest option sure, but if I’m not getting any pain relief what’s healthy about that?

    Efficient burn of all herb sure, but Is it efficient if I’m not getting the desired results?
  • Firefly 2+

    unfortunately i had to read his post, im pretty sure no 2+ i am past the point of caring meow.
    I have held my "fingers" a few times. I didnt feel like it this time :joke:
  • Firefly 2+

    Bruce was the original forum cheerleader for the Firefly 2, went as far as telling people it was the only convection vape available when it wasn't. I don't know what exactly changed but after about 8 months he decided it wasn't a good vape at all.
    I can't comment on if he has tried a 2+ but he certainly had an original 2.
  • Firefly 2+

    are you telling me then that you have tried the ff4!? Dude i specifically said 2+ if you havent then im half sorry to say your previous post where you comment on the lack of noticiable difference between the two is bullshit bruh!
    You dont like the company im okay with that, if you have evidence to support it :up:
    If you make up evidence to support your dislike, i begin to question your motives entirely... :down:
    I have concluded that you have never owned one and certaintly not two. Your dislike for this product tells me you could never have stomached the purcahse of a second one because there has never been a time where you enjoyed it....
  • Pax 3 vs Fierce

    ...I'm taking the fuking thing back tomorrow because the gasket for the concentrate lid will didn't stay on and will not go back on...Hapo

    Go for the Firefly 2+ if you want to do concentrates .....extremely well. I luv mine.
  • Firefly 2+



    Listening now while I take a .25 out of my Carta

    Edit1
    FML! hell with FF, this impacts several of my clients (one of them is mentioned). One who literally makes their revenue by directing people to recreational stores and dispensaries.
    So thank you. I literally needed to know this.

    Edit 2:
    So at 9:00 a welshman improved the design !!! :100: our @welshman ? :joke:
  • Firefly 2+

    @EconMan



    You should listen to this as it provides some insight ff2+
    7:15 in starts the interview
  • Firefly 2+

    i took the dive too knowing what i was getting intoTyedyesamuraiguy

    I knew of the smoke cloud controversy, and also about the excessive "hype" that preceded my entrance into vaping, but I remember vividly it was between the brand new MV1 and the FF2 -- I was going to buy one or the other -- a headshop on ebay had it for $265 but mostly it was this deviant below who I concluded at 26:10 was either the world's greatest liar and actor OR was sincerely taking a hit I wanted to take too. I knew he was hawking the MV1, but I never saw him hawk one like in this vid.

    I wanted that "experience" and went and got it. He was not lying and I will always be thankful for this "tipping point". Indeed, had I not seen this and confirmed the FF2 fucking tastes great -- not only do you not lose by leaving combustion you gain something! -- I would not be on this forum.

    That's why people pay him for his opinion, it has market power.

  • Firefly 2+

    EconMan! I just got the FF2+ (quick free shipping). You were right, it's great. I just now had zero problem getting hits. I set the temp on 340 on my phone. used little scissors to cut up some flower to a rough grind. Put in bowl level to deck and patted it down with my finger. Pulled a few cigar puffs, then drew in for 8 seconds or so (because I figured that's what you're supposed to do and if it wasn't harsh, that wouldn't be a problem). It wasn't. No coughing or anything and I got vapor . I tried a couple mouth to lung shorter hits and they gave me vapor too. I don't think it could be any better. Thanks!It's in the details

    Congrats! I remember that feeling! :100: :party: :cool:

    Something I've always loved about it, is from a stone-cold state, I can be toking on it within a few seconds of turning it on. And if you ever get a true PRIMO strain of flower in, it is just the best thing to get that fullness of taste. :nerd:

    And yeah, when it comes to a tasty bowl that gets you nice and high, it's hard to do it any "better", only different.
  • Firefly 2+

    i took the dive too knowing what i was getting into and i didnt because it works great.
    My issue was i bought the ff2 for the same price as a 2+ days or maybe a little bit more before the annoucment, i didnt like that!
    I have to find the time to call them but they agreed to upgrade my oven at their cost. Pretty stand up in my opinion!
  • Firefly 2+



    That's good to know. My FF2 has been 100% trouble free. I've suffered no issues at all. Even my lid gasket looks like new. In all honesty, as much as I've used it, including the "hot" concentrates use, I am nearly amazed it still works.

    I had low expectations though. I had of course read the credible negatives on it before buying it, but given that even its worst critics seemed reluctantly to admit to its being good for taste-chasers, I bought it anyway. Really glad I did.

    In terms of average cost per hit, it has been my least expensive vape.
  • Firefly 2+

    EconMan! I just got the FF2+ (quick free shipping). You were right, it's great. I just now had zero problem getting hits. I set the temp on 340 on my phone. used little scissors to cut up some flower to a rough grind. Put in bowl level to deck and patted it down with my finger. Pulled a few cigar puffs, then drew in for 8 seconds or so (because I figured that's what you're supposed to do and if it wasn't harsh, that wouldn't be a problem). It wasn't. No coughing or anything and I got vapor . I tried a couple mouth to lung shorter hits and they gave me vapor too. I don't think it could be any better. Thanks!
  • Firefly 2+

    i have had to contact their customer sevice and i was pleased with the resoultion and response.
    Not sure what it would have been x amount of time ago but to ke its irrelevant!
  • Firefly 2+



    True. And they don't have to like the company. I don't know if I like the company. I've had zero interaction with them. I do like their product though, and it has been a great trouble-free vaping appliance for over a year. Why would I dislike the product because some others dislike the company? If Joseph Stalin designed it, I would still use it. It works for me.

    I don't like left-wing democrats, right-wing republicans, progressives, communists, socialists, or educated-idiot social justice warriors either; but I still go to Portland on business now and then, and am unconcerned if the wheat the baker uses to make my bread comes from a republican or a democrat farmer.

    Likewise, I don't care if I personally like the makers of the FireFly2, it is only necessary I like their creation.
  • Firefly 2+

    i happen to like it too! I can understand a dislike for the company itself and the people who run it. However the the people and attitude have nothing to do with the actual product and i personally have never experienced such things, also fashionably late to the party to be fair :joke:
    There are other people who dislike the company in general and while i respect their opinion and thoughts they are at least up front about it. You never hear them saying how shitty the 2+ is without trying it.... This thread aint no election no need for mud slanging around here.
  • Firefly 2+ looks like they upgraded the Firefly

    I never touch the calibration settingLabPong

    When I dab distillate I like to go in hotter because it is so clean it can take it, so I'll set it at 500f then add 10% calibration. For Rosin, I am like you, perhaps a little hotter -- I go in around 480'ish
  • Firefly 2+

    dude we get it you don't like firefly!Tyedyesamuraiguy

    What matters is I like it -- a lot -- but then I'm probably just an "amateur" who lacks an understanding of "high quality equipment." :nerd:
  • Firefly 2+

    mmx would you explain or make a video of the technique you use with the Lotus?
    How long have you used it? I can't get a rhythm with its use to make it one which I can replicate every time.
  • Firefly 2+

    you have tried the 2+?
  • Firefly 2+

    dude we get it you dont like firefly!
  • Firefly 2+

    I agree 100%.

    There are extreme exaggerations from whom the background of the upper management as well as some performance enhanced advertising.

    I don't respect that. I think its morality in business issue. A negative business Practice to the consumer.

    With that said, I have taken to blogging to learn from others experiences.

    I am using this format as usual to give my feedback and read feedback as a tool toward buying quality dry herb vape purchases.

    The Firefly company makes a compelling case with their claims and advertising. However, from my experience (I tried the FF2 many times and 2 replacement units) this vape doesn't do an efficient job at vaporising my dry herb materials. I gave it my all and it works but the price is also misleading since you can get vapes that are awesome for a fraction of the price (The G43 $100, The Dynavap vapes ($60 - $180) and the Pax 3 at $200. If you spend your $320 on the FF2 you could have a MUCH better vape for 80% less cost.



    In total I believe the Firefly vapes are not to impress the experienced dry herb enthusiast its to get customers new to vaping and the appearance from advertising and the "Boxing" is like a lure on my fishing hook. It works but for those of us who have high quality equipment we see it for what it is and thats an amateur device, with many flaws the equipment the experienced dry herb vapor user uses is far superior at a fraction of the price.
  • Firefly 2+ looks like they upgraded the Firefly

    yo...52.....just pull the trigger. You get full warranty and a new battery.....not worth the hassle if you get a worn out unit possibly from a used one.


    ↪LabPong
    Whats your calibration for flower? I am still experimenting and looking for my sweetest spot.
    mmx

    I never touch the calibration setting.....do not feel a need to. I normally set at 360 or 370F for flower.....and add 100F to those for rosin on the pad.
  • Firefly 2+ looks like they upgraded the Firefly

    FF2+ is $50 off with code “brave”. That’s $199 and it shows free shipping in my cart. They accept PayPal also if that’s important. I’m so close to pulling the trigger. I never tried concentrates in it before I sold mine. Or should I look for a used regular ff2 for less $$ on Craigslist or classifieds here?
  • Firefly 2+ looks like they upgraded the Firefly



    I think the first name for "calibration (right before I got my FF2 last year) was something like "power boost" or something like that. It was misleading. They renamed it to "calibration" to give it a more representative name for what it actually does -- define "zero" within a linear amplifier.

    Hence, if you set it to +105, here is the math assuming a preset temp of 400f.
    Well, 105% x 400 = 420f
    So 400F with a 105 calibration is IDENTICAL to simply setting it to 420f. This is all it does.

    Personally, I would have prefered some exponential or other non-linear amplification methods much like a turbo-charger does on a car engine. It does NOT increase power linearly across all rpm ranges.
  • Firefly 2+ looks like they upgraded the Firefly

    Whats your calibration for flower? I am still experimenting and looking for my sweetest spot.

    I tried first at 100%, then I moved to max 111%, which I didnt like. You get massive hits, but not so tasty. Then I moved to 89% and yep, I need to be around here. Now im testing 93% - micro changes for life :lol:
  • Firefly 2+ looks like they upgraded the Firefly

    I haven't. But I've used this device so long now, the lights are not really used by me that much anymore.EconMan

    I found this to be true pretty quickly especially with flower.

    As soon as I can taste the vapor or feel it in the back of my throat....stop heating and then keep drawing the vapor for several seconds after.....I get perfect hits with this technique instead of watching the light go off. Most of the time I do not need to pull that long anyway. With concentrates.....yea I will pull longer usually.
  • Firefly 2+ looks like they upgraded the Firefly

    the best experience in an electronic device I have had recentlyLabPong

    Ditto. This shows the "apple" influence. lol :nerd:

    I use the app to quickly change from concentrates to flower (and visa versa) mode. The FF2 works fine without an app, but I've never been one for sequences of binary signaling, especially when getting high.

    Had mine about a year now and when I consider how much trouble free use it has given me -- both in flower and concentrates -- in terms of "revealed preference" it is my favorite portable vape. I've yet to find any self-contained portable "pipe" that tastes as good as my FF2. And if I am going to go to the trouble of vaping flower, I want that "full spectrum" of flavor to not be lost; else, might as well just dab some 90+% yet near flavorless thc fractional distillate.


    Have you noticed that the green light goes out after some time? I am used to do slow long draws, so I normally stop when it gets automatically shut off.mmx

    I haven't. But I've used this device so long now, the lights are not really used by me that much anymore.

    FYI: for those who use their FF2 with concentrates. Try this tech.

    I set at 500f and 103% calibration.
    Get it started by heating up the chamber via 'cigar puffing".... each puff makes the chamber hotter.
    The eventual goal is to force the FF2 into over heating. So by the 2nd full draw (first run is cigar puffing) I want the FF2 to get the solid red light meaning it's heater has turned off until chamber temp cools down.

    Once the red light goes on, it is almost like a torch and banger after that..... fully exhale and then take a slow but long and deliberate inhalation, and the hit(s) you get will be perfect and so tasty.

    It is STILL the best portable concentrates vape I've used. Fuck those stupid nasty-tasting and really-fucking-messy pens.

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