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  • Plenty by Storz & Bickel

    I've been using plenty with the volcano hybrid whip ...
    Has anyone tried it? It's very cool
    Hey Bud can you try it? Is it very different from hybrid?
  • Volcano by Storz & Bickel

    The firmware update process for the Hybrid is not great. The update has 29 parts! In my case, the update failed over and over until I eventually quit the app and power cycled the Hybrid. I was half sure that it was going to brick the device but the update finally completed successfully.
  • Volcano by Storz & Bickel

    Ended up returning my Hybrid this week after having it since late July / early August. As some may remember from earlier posts that I had issues with the Bluetooth when I first got it, S&B sent a RMA to the shop I bought it from but I never bothered to return it because everything seemed to be fine.

    Fast forward to last Saturday, Bluetooth goes spotty again and the air pump was making fucked up noises all weekend (a range of noises from clicking, to a fluttering sound to sounding like the thing was about to lift itself off the desk and fly). I don't know if it was just something 'loose' inside the unit because it started to come and go.

    I may be the minority but i also found using the capsules with the whip just as good or better then a full chamber. Whereas with the bag the capsule was decent (much thicker then digi or classic) but the full chamber was much better.

    EDIT: I am also a 'there is no such thing as too much weed' kind of guy, so my whip experience isn't down to tolerance.
  • Volcano Hybrid Review w/ Classic Comparison

    Apparently its shock mounted and given some room to flex about rather than break.Baron23

    Another thought....this shock mounting...soft mounting...of the pump is probably also to isolate the pump vibration from the rest of the device. Again, my Digit is the same and I presume the Classic also but have never used/handled one.
  • Volcano Hybrid Review w/ Classic Comparison

    I went to their site and they’re offering 20% off with the same code (CELERITY) with several different vapes.
  • Volcano Hybrid Review w/ Classic Comparison

    Outstanding. I have not done any business yet with Cream City but they seem to be killing it on price and CS from reports that I have read.

    For $560, well....that makes a big difference to me versus $700 which I think is over the top and a bit of gouging by S&B and Canopy. $560 is reasonably where you can get a Digit and is a pretty good price, IMO.

    What did you use for a discount code? Where did you find the code, please?

    I will be very interested to see if you views of it and mine match up or differ. Please do come and tell us, yeah?
  • Volcano Hybrid Review w/ Classic Comparison

    Awesome review as usual! Cream City just provided tracking this afternoon for my Hybrid purchase. Super excited to get it for $140 off!
  • Volcano Hybrid Review w/ Classic Comparison

    hi John - that’s such an individual thing that I can’t comment except to say that if other Volcano versions made you cough a lot, then so will the Hybrid.
  • Volcano Hybrid Review w/ Classic Comparison

    Note: I think I have the bit about needing the app to change C to F maybe wrong.

    I think I did it by pressing + and - buttons at the same time.

    If I recall correctly, this is how it’s done on my Digi also.
  • Volcano Hybrid Review w/ Classic Comparison

    very nice. I want to try one but worry it will be a "cougher" for me. No matter the temp or grind, I found volcano dry and harsh.. even with water
  • Volcano Hybrid Review w/ Classic Comparison

    Oh, also...I didn't use the "work flow" function of the app insofar as based on my own investigation of available data leads me to firmly think that selective extraction by temp control is not really feasible and it seems to me that work flow is only applicable to the bag anyway.

    It just looks like a gimmick to me.
  • Volcano Hybrid Review w/ Classic Comparison

    Part 2

    5. The App – ahhh, well…personally I only like apps if ALL the functions of the app are also available directly through controls on the device itself. But, in the case of the Hybrid, there are some settings (like F vs C or turning off the aural notification of running the pump when it reaches temp) that are not available on the device itself. Personally, I believe that some combination of button pushes on the device itself could have also been used as an alternative to the app for these setting type functions.

    • a. Loading the app and connecting – the app loaded easily but getting it to connect to BT was a bit baffling. First, you have to load in the serial number of the device into the app. Until this is done, you won’t even see the Hybrid in your phone’s BT list of devices. Now, this is what my serial number label looks like. Please note the fourth character from the right. Does that look like a zero…a zed…to you? Well, it did to me also and we are both wrong! Haha That is, while the label definitely looks like a zero, the app was looking for the letter “O” and the app is confusing in that if you do not get the serial number exactly correct, it doesn’t even give you an “enter” or “continue button. If not in correctly, you can only hit “Cancel”. When entered correctly, it automatically submits the serial number and connects. Small but frustrating, at the time, issue


    • b. Firmware Upgrade – not sure what it improved, but the app did immediately ask me if I wanted to upgrade the firmware, which I did. There was a pretty good display of update progress and it seemed to work out ok.
    • c. Functions – yeah, you can turn on the fan and change temp via the app but why? It’s so easy to do on the device. The app does provide info (firmware rev level, hours of use, that kind of thing….whoopee!) Personally, after a few changes in the Settings area, I just didn’t find the need to use the app again. TBH, same with my MV1’s.

    For me, bottom line is that this unit would have been great as a replacement for the Digit AT THE SAME PRICE. and Puffitup are now asking $599 for a Digit and all you get extra is a cheap ass grinder. I'm pretty sure that 4 years ago my Digit was $550 or so from Vapor Nation (with Vape Critic code maybe?) and they threw in free overnight shipping and a big ballistic nylon case made for the 'Cano. IMO, this would be a fair deal/pricefor the Hybrid.

    If you don’t have a Volcano and want one, I suggest the Hybrid but feel certain that the price will come down a bit with time. Cream City Vapes offers a pretty good (20% maybe?) discount on the Hybrid and reports on transactions with them that I have seen are all positive while getting the price down to something a bit more reasonable.

    If you have a Volcano, as I do, it’s hard to see the need to upgrade to the Hybrid unless you got a good price for your used Volcano or whips are REALLY important to you.

    I’m sure I have forgotten something but these are my initial views.
  • Volcano Hybrid Review w/ Classic Comparison

    I was lent a Volcano Hybrid to try out and here are my impressions.

    TL;DR – I love the added conduction…it works…and I love the whip. I think the Hybrid would have been a great replacement for the Digit at the same price as the Digit. But sadly, that’s not the case.

    1. Unboxing – fuggedaboutit. If I have to look at another unboxing vid I will scream. It comes boxed very nicely by S&B. What else do you want to know

    2. What you Get – The Volcano, power cord, four bags, a whip, the chamber, some replacement screens, o-rings, and air filters.

    3. Construction and Material Quality – this is still an S&B Volcano….it’s built like a brick outhouse. It feels like the very same construction as all other Volcanos. That is, professional and well done. Like all Volcanos, if you shake it you can hear the air pump bang around a bit…this is on purpose, I believe. Apparently its shock mounted and given some room to flex about rather than break. There are few areas of note regarding construction and material quality:

    • a. Power Cord - the Hybrid comes with a removable power cord. This is welcomed as it makes putting the dang thing away a bit easier and neater. However, the OG, permanently attached power cords were very heavy duty with what feels like a lot of copper in there. Good and heavy provokes confidence IMO, but it also kinked over time (well mine did) and it is fairly unruly to store away. The new cord is much more like a heavy duty lamp cord. So far, no issues but just something to note.
    • b. Whip Material - not sure WTF this is made of. If its silicone then it feels different to the hand that all other silicone tubing I have handled. On the other hand, it does not pick up dust and lint like almost all other silicone tubing I have handled. No smell but I’m not very sensitive to that stuff.
    • c. Chamber rings – Ok, they are plastic. And, it is a ring held off from the central chamber portion by plastic spokes. It feels very light weight, however, it didn’t feel at all flimsy to me and it did the intended job of keeping heat away from your fingers. With the Hybrid’s added conduction component, the core of the oven gets really dang hot. No way that the old design would work…that stuff would be scorching. So, while not feeling heavy duty, does it need to be heavy duty? And, it certainly did its job of making handling of the oven safe and cool.
    • d. Touch senor buttons – I’m generally ok with these as they are higher reliability components than mechanical switches and can be easily shaped into different configurations and to contour the device. But they do have a down side. I found the switches on the Hybrid to be VERY sensitive. It was real easy to brush the Air button and turn on the pump inadvertently. Also, mechanical switches can be often replaced by the home DIY person. No so with touch sensor switches. Finally, there is little to no tactile feedback which is an objection I have to my touch screen infected dashboard of my car! LOL

    4. Function and Performance

    • a. Conduction really works – I have had a Digit for about four years now, I think, and I do love it. However, even though I know that “green” is chlorophyll, it always bothered me to see the standard full convection Volcano Poo greenish AVB. I could easily see the difference in AVB with the added conduction of the Hybrid in the AVB color. AVB color was an even coffee brown and, right or wrong, this makes me feel more confident in having gotten full extraction. Also, the conduction portion was apparent to me at the end of a session. I have long noted that with many/most traditional conduction vapes, that at the end of the session you can get a goodly string of sort of wispy but “hard to just leave in there” kind of draws. I would see this as very apparent with an old Flowermate that I used to have. After pretty much killing the load, I would still get thin draw of visible vapor…a series of them….and I got a few of them at the end of the Hybrid session. Just what I would expect from hybrid convection/conduction.
    • b. Efficiency and Load Size – well, I guess that this part depends on your definition of efficiency. To me, a vape is very efficient if it extracts out and delivers a very high percentage of available cannabinoids, terps, flavonoids, and all the rest. Another way to look at efficiency…probably more commonly used by people…is did I get the effects I want from a fairly small load size. VapCap, MV1, or Grasshopper are examples. Well, the hybrid is a Volcano after all and micro-dosing is nowhere in its lexicon, IMO. Yes, they have a chamber reducer and capsules, but I personally have never felt that they worked very well with the Volcano and believe it works best in the native oven. You can top a smaller load in a Volcano with a liquid pad, but it’s still definitely not a micro-doser to my mind. This Volcano is like others, IMO. It runs best with probably a minimum of .25 g and runs very well with .4 g. But I do view this Hybrid as efficient and view it as more efficient than other versions as I believe it more fully extracts my flower due to the added conduction.
    • c. Taste – I only used the whip….I mean, I have a Digit and the bag system has been out for over 10 years. But the whip was new and I absolutely thought the taste from the whip on the first few hits was way better than bag vapor. I like bags…I’m into medicating and I want it done and done quickly. Thick bags support my use case very well. But, bag vapor tends to taste muddled to me. With the whip, the notes of the strain came out…again in those first few draws (max) as I feel that taste goes away very quickly no matter what vape I use. To me, taste was improved with the whip but its new and clean so that must be taken into account.
    • d. The Whip – I liked it. Manual says to run the air pump for 5 seconds to “prime” the load. I found this to be too long and a bit of a waste of vapor. I ran the fan for just a second or two until I saw vapor coming out of the whip then turned off the air and began drawing. I also used the whip with no blown air priming and it was fine. Taste and not much vapor on the first draw, then plenty of visible vapor on subsequent draws. I also like the fact that the whip is mounted so it rotates. Makes handling it very easy, IMO.

  • Volcano by Storz & Bickel

    Thank you Cream City Vapes for the 20%!!! Now the waiting game
  • Plenty by Storz & Bickel

    Ya know, I've owned a plenty for 3 yrs and I feel that my main problem with it is it cooks up, and goes through your herb way too fast, yeah, yeah, I realize the vape critic loves it, but I noticed when using it, I feel like im consistently being rushed to take the next hit? I know they say that it doesn't really cook you herb when you don't hit it, but I literally sit there when I'm using it, and see all this vapor just leaking out and vaping out of the tip of the mouthpiece, and I feel like the hits are a little uncomfortable due to the amount it dispenses on each hit, I much rather sit back and enjoy the mighty, I feel like my herb goes farther and I get more effeccieny, hell, I even pick the volcano over the plenty, anyway just thought I would put out my experience and opinion, I find it to be a little on the waistfull side, give me a. 2, I much rather run that through the mighty instead of the plenty, you just get more out of it in my opinion, but I noticed the people that do like the plenty, really like alot.
  • FlowerPot by NewVape

    So true. I like having friends that vape so we can try out our additions. I've been able to try a volcano which lead to my own purchase. I've used a FF2, sticky brick jr. and G43 (thanks EconMan) and this is definitely a vape I want my friends to try!!Skyvaper

    We know our devices work -- we each gain 10 lbs by the time the evening winds down :rofl:

    The one you got is flower only, right? Regardless, I would like to try one in a real session.
  • FlowerPot by NewVape

    it is possible to micro dose with a Flowerpot but the device does not encourage this...Hapo

    I'm very new to owning a FP WE but from my experience it is the opposite. For my usage the FP encourages me to micro dose. I simply cannot handle a full FP bowl. It would be way too much at once and wouldnt be enjoyable. I just measured that I can get one dense hit from half bottom screen covered mv1 crucible at 700F no carb cap.

    I find the FP works well with .1 g Just need to cover the screen in the bowl.Baron23

    I get great results with this and less. Lately I've been experimenting at 700 with specs. What I get out of what I put in blows my mind. At the same time I dont have another microdosing vape to compare my experience with.

    As far as a carb cap for the WE I'm still curious but in no hurry to purchase one. I've read through many posts and overall feel that it would most likely allow for denser hits at lower temps but the effects are still the same no?

    ..IMHO it is not for everybody...Hapo

    I agree!! My friends think it's a bit "much" but likes it when I bring it over. They prefer the volcano which is a great vape too.

    I'm not saying these vapes are for everyone but everyone should try one sometime as they really are heavy hitters.Dr green thumb

    So true. I like having friends that vape so we can try out our additions. I've been able to try a volcano which lead to my own purchase. I've used a FF2, sticky brick jr. and G43 (thanks @EconMan) and this is definitely a vape I want my friends to try!!

    ...IMHO the weed eater should have a carb cap...I uses one every time on the V Rod...Hapo

    You have both and feel the experience is better on the WE and V Rod with the carb cap?

    I never carb the weed eater and get large dense hits.Dr green thumb

    But when you do......(drumroll)???
  • FlowerPot by NewVape

    Hi there. I decided to give my herb a better treatment so I'm considering buying the NV FP. I'm debating between the VROD and the WeedEater, so I could use some advice. I'm gonna use it mostly for flower, with an occasional dab if I go for the VROD.

    1. Do you find the WE better for flower than the VROD? Is the lower draw resistance of the WE actually an advantage? Some people mention having to take slower draws with the WE, or using it with a carb cap. Doesn't it counteract the advantage of a lower draw resistance?
    2. Does the VROD retain heat and maintain constant temperature during draws better than the WE?
    3. How different is dabbing with the VROD compared to the good-old blow torch?
    4. Can someone actually feel the taste of titanium when vaping? On a blind test, would you be able to tell the difference between the FP and an all-glass vape?
    5. How come the temperatures normally used in the FP are much higher in comparison to temperatures used in other vapes, e.g. the Volcano Hybrid?
    6. In this post, @52 measured a difference of up to 230°F between the PID reading and an external thermometer. Is this an issue?

    Finally, if someone owns both models — which one do you like more when vaping flower?

    Any advice would be much appreciated.
    Thanks, CookieMonster
  • Plenty by Storz & Bickel

    Compared to the new Volcano hybrid, whip only, how would you rate the vapor?BestBuds

    I find the Plenty to be much better than the Volcano. Not bashing it at all. It is a great vape, but I did not find it that tasty and did not love the vapor in a bag experience. I traded my V for a Carta package.

    I will never trade/sell my Plenty. It is just too good of a vape. And it's cooling coil also works fantastic with carts and even the Dyna. It REALLY does a great job of cooling. So I suspect for most people the Plenty will have better tasting vapor than the volcano. And did I say you can rip it? :nerd:
  • Volcano by Storz & Bickel

    That's good. I believe glass is the best. And that's what I want in my next Vaporizer.
  • Volcano by Storz & Bickel

    glass chamber, it may be a ceramic heater, but im unsure.
  • Volcano by Storz & Bickel

    Yes I have. That's definitely one that's on my list. And Da Buddha. The EQ was one that I said if I ever buy a desktop that would probably be the one. I'm trying to remember is the chamber Ceramic?
  • Volcano by Storz & Bickel

    correct, only the new Hybrid version has the whip.

    Edit: have you looked at the EQ. It has a whip, and if you just pack the basket screen, you can microdose pretty effectively
  • Volcano by Storz & Bickel

    I forgot the Classic dosen't have a wip and only uses bags right?
  • Volcano by Storz & Bickel

    When I use my Boundless CF I vape the entire 5 minutes in a session until my Vaporizer shuts off. So I'm fine with taking more then 2 to 4 hits. It's just it would be nice to have an on demand vape to at least have that option.
  • Volcano by Storz & Bickel

    for 2-4 hits at a time the volcano might not be the best IMO, I suppose you could short fill bags, but if you dont finish a bag, all that vapor would go stale.
  • Volcano by Storz & Bickel

    Thanks. Yes as you said a Hybrid will always produce more vapor without a doubt and definitely cook the herb deeper. Depending on the device that may not be a good thing for people with sensitive Lungs that wants a thinner vapor like myself.

    Also this time around if I'm going to save up money and buy and expensive device it had to be on demand and not session. I'm a medical Cannabis user so I use all day every day through out the day. So a on demand would fit my needs a lot better. It would be nice to pack a chamber and take 2 to 4 hits leave it and then come back.

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